[skinsfan0201]

Yeah, my point is that if the penalty was called, as it should have been, as ESPN certainly as well as Gibbs said that should have been called then he never would have fumbled. When you are reviewing those stats, you normally would discount that stat because normally that penalty would be called and the referees say that their main job is to protect the quarterback. Knowing that the circumstance of Ramsey being tackled around the throat would be the exception and not the norm you can not fault him for that particular turnover.