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Originally Posted by GTripp0012
I don't mean to crap all over the question, because it's a really strong discussion point. But the question isn't relevant. Griffin doesn't need more time. He needs superiors who know what they are doing and have the best interests of the franchise in mind.
The answer to your question is a practical one. Mike Shanahan is going to take the fall for the failure of this team. He deserves it of course, but even if he didn't he's taking the fall. He's been here the longest, he's done the least to help, and he can't come back. Griffin gets (and deserves) a total pass.
Thing is, Griffin knows how this game works: after the guy who brought you in gets fired, you're the next one to get held responsible. So the organization has to turn around now, or Griffin can't continue to be the quarterback. He's going to get the length of the next coaches' tenure to win here. In three years, if the Redskins look up and haven't won yet, they'll change the QB and the coach.
That's how the game is played.
Thing is, five years probably isn't enough time to fully develop a quarterback from scratch. Brady was in what, year 8 (2007), when Belichick took the training wheels off for good. Peyton Manning was in year...7 (2004)? Eli was in year 8 (2011). Brees was on his second organization. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco have gotten the training wheels taken off and...well...you can see that the structure they had before may have been beneficial for them.
You don't need to stick with a QB who isn't progressing and Griffin is no exception. So if he's worse next year than this year, there's no reason to beat ones head against the wall any longer. But he's going to look somewhat better in a more QB friendly system, and he's a ways away from his peak NFL seasons.
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Could not be more wrong here. Brady and Manning were running pro offenses in their first full years under center and passing the ball, as was Andrew Luck. There were no "training wheels" as you put it. Wilson, Griff, Locker, EJ Manuel, Ponder?? I think those guys needed to start out with conservative type offenses.