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Originally Posted by Lotus
I didn't argue that Snyder has changed. I said that your argument is essentially circular, as it assumes what it is trying to prove, and hence is fallacious.
Snyder meddled under Shanahan? Prove it. I have seen zero evidence for this which is not just Shanahan crapping on everyone on the way out the door. Offer real evidence that is indisputably not just Shanahan spin.
You can talk about the past all you want. But until you offer evidence from the present, which you have not done despite a call for it, you are engaging in pointless rumor-mongering.
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The latest rumors could be just Shanahan leaving a turd on the carpet for Snyder to clean up. But after multiple coaches attesting to Snyders involvement, (even during the Gibbs 2.0 era where Gibbs and Cerrato would present their plans to Snyder for approval, which seemed a lot more benign at the time than Snyder and Cerrato acting on their own), the burden of proof that Snyder's changed is on those who would question that Snyder hasn't.
Gruden is the 8th head coach under Snyder. We know Snyder wasn't "hands off" for all but Shanahan. And whether Snyder was "hands off" with Shanny is disputed. How many times should we assume, "Yeah, he's changed this time."?