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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The latest rumors could be just Shanahan leaving a turd on the carpet for Snyder to clean up. But after multiple coaches attesting to Snyders involvement, (even during the Gibbs 2.0 era where Gibbs and Cerrato would present their plans to Snyder for approval, which seemed a lot more benign at the time than Snyder and Cerrato acting on their own), the burden of proof that Snyder's changed is on those who would question that Snyder hasn't.

Gruden is the 8th head coach under Snyder. We know Snyder wasn't "hands off" for all but Shanahan. And whether Snyder was "hands off" with Shanny is disputed. How many times should we assume, "Yeah, he's changed this time."?

You just won't let go of the wrongheaded the-past-proves-the-present argument, will you?

Perhaps you are right. I shall now presume that this year is 2008 because it was 2008 before. Of course that means that you cannot comment on this post because you are not a Warpath member in 2008. It's a shame that things never change, isn't it?