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Old 01-11-2015, 08:23 PM   #265
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Re: NFL divisional round thread.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
The problem is, Manning has always been on teams that can't support him if he fails. It's always the case. If Manning has a bad game, the Broncos (or Colts) lose. I have never ever seen any of his teams win the game despite Manning, with the exception of the Super Bowl and which Rhodes and Bob Sanders willed them to a win. Your team can't be that reliant on the QB. I think we are seeing the same thing with the Colts as well.

Check this for instance. Earlier this year, the Colts played the Patriots in Foxboro and got their ass stomp. You'd figure Brady played lights out, but he didn't. In fact, they won despite his poor play.

New England Patriots vs. Indianapolis Colts - Box Score - November 16, 2014 - ESPN

Carried by a RB and a defense. Negate that "stat padder" they did at the end, and his rating was well below 80 for that game. Tom can afford to have a bad game (unless turnovers are involved) and they still win. QBs like Peyton and Luck don't have that luxury.

If Luck plays bad next week, that team is sunk.
There have been games where Denver has carried Manning. Vs. The bill is a perfect example.

Buffalo Bills vs. Denver Broncos - Box Score - December 07, 2014 - ESPN

Every team needs all three phases to play well to win. If the offense doesn't do well they will lose. If the D does bad, they will lose. Same thing with Special Teams.

When Manning does bad, it directly impacts the defense. Just like when the defense does bad it directly impacts Manning and the offense.

Manning doesn't play well enough in the playoffs to win. Just watch the super bowl for a perfect example. Manning and the offense played horribly which put the defense in terrible spots.

There have been multiple times where Manning has had a top 5 defense and offense and they go out in one game.

If we want to give Manning all the credit, he deserves some of the blame as well. Just like Brady or any other QB.
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