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Originally Posted by kingj
Ok so bottom line you don't feel Gruden is on the hot seat regardless of performance?
If he doesn't get to 7 wins after all the talk he's done himself, then yeah I believe he's gone. I'm not pro-Griffin in case you are reading it that way.
I simply see both Griffin and Gruden not with the organization at start of 2016 season. It's not like Gruden is blameless in this circus. He has made his share of mistakes and this is his 2nd chance with his preferred qb just like last year was Griffin's 2nd chance until injuries, performance and his refusal to run R/O (whether accurate or not) did him in.
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I would really like to see some continuity. I think there is some inherent value in not changing up every few years if you have a talented staff.
Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.
I think Gruden has upside. If we are moving to a power blocking line and McLovin's prototypical draft pick is what Gruden has already had success with I don't want to move on too early.
Not that Gruden is Marty Shottenheimer, I just don't want to bring in another Steve Spurrier after two years.
Last year seemed like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I'm for squaring up the hole and seeing what happens.
As for mistakes, he hasn't repeated the same bone head mistakes he made as a rookie head coach. New QB coach, no delay of game penalties, and has handled the media in the middle of a shit storm ok.
To be clear, unless there is a head coaching candidate that you just can't turn down (if there was, he wouldn't come to Washington anyway), then stay the course.