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Originally Posted by 30gut
You really think our personnel on offense is laughably inferior to theirs? Do you remember the Seahawks offense players?
Maybe Kirk just needs to add 800+ yards rushing?
You wanna trade DeSean, Garcon and Reed/Paul for Baldwin, Kearse and Willson/Helfert?
And their OL is everybit as spotty as ours.
And before Jay destroyed the run game Alf ran for 3 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons.
But sure Russ production was propped up by the same defense and run game that produced the 22nd ranked offense the year before and magically jumping to 1st when he took the helm.
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It wasn't magic, it was not having Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst as the QB anymore.
Wilson was 29th in passing yards per game in 2012:
2012 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
They weren't number 1 in PPG, YPG, or total yards or total points. They were number 1 in F.O. DVOA ranking which is a good measure in my opinion.
They were actually 17th in total yards, 17th in yards per game, 9th in total points, and 9th in points per game:
2012 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN
I mean, Rex Grossman could have taken Seattle to a Super Bowl with that defense and run game. He actually did with Chicago.
In the offensive year you're talking about 2012,
Seattle's RB Lynch ranked 2nd
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | RUNNING BACKS 2012
And Wilson ranked 8th
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2012
2013 Wilson ranked 9th, Lynch 5th
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2013
2014 Wilson ranked 13th, Lynch 2nd
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2014
2015 Wilson ranks 17th, Lynch 16th
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015
Yes, I think he has been propped up by a hall of fame running back who is the hardest man to get on the ground since Jim Brown. I also believe he has been propped up by the defense.
Wilson has actually declined from year to year while Lynch remained very consistent from 2012 to 2014.
Wilson has ranked below Lynch every year since coming in the league.
When Lynch was injured this year, Wilson wasn't able to rely on his hall of fame RB and he ranks in the bottom half of the league at 17 despite having the #8 D:
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
Compare Wilson's numbers with Kirk Cousins this year:
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015
Kirk ranks 10th, while Alf and Jones are 34th and 26th respectively and our defense is 25th.
Totally agree with Punch, we would be 1-9 without him.
I also think we would be 1-9 with Russell Wilson, or Kap, or RGIII.
Nobody is propping Kirk up this year, and Wilson only has the defense propping him up and you can see what the rankings are.