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Originally Posted by mooby
We could be in a position to draft any qb not named Tua, however I'm much more interested in drafting the best stud football player available. If the next best guy behind Tua is some average first rounder we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Yes, in today's NFL the trend is definitely towards rookie qb's starting, however that doesn't mean historically it trends well. Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, and Brees. 3 out of 4 of those qb's sat for at least a season to start their careers. The 4th became a stud in his contract year for the Chargers, who let him go because they had already drafted his replacement (who also didn't start his rookie year and has since become a quality qb).
You're not gonna convince me that a qb has to start his rookie year so you can determine if he needs to be replaced next year. It takes qb's multiple years to learn. It's the hardest position to learn, bar none. Ya'll acting like because we didn't draft the next wunderkind we need to get rid of him. Let's just be honest here Chico, you've already made your opinion of him based on the fact he hasn't looked good while playing in limited action. Unless he starts and blows the fucking doors off this franchise sometime before the end of this season the majority of this fanbase is going to advocate moving on from him if there's a better prospect available in the draft.
We all played ourselves. Dan and Bruce played Gruden. Gruden played us. Forcing a lame-duck HC to draft a qb who has no chance of coming in his rookie year and contributing is a terrible fucking move, and Haskins career is stunted from the start. He's damaged goods now and if we move on next year we're gonna be forced to sell low on him because nobody is going to give up a good draft pick for a guy you have no faith in.
The cycle of mediocrity continues.
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Thing is that Burrow, Tua, and Herbert are all coming out. We might very well be picking number 2. I think you are letting your inner Redskin get in the way. Do you think the Cardinals made the right move? Of course you do. But if you were a Cards fan last year you would have been saying the same thing. Give Rosen a chance. Forget Murray. Let Rosen grow and grab a stud at some other position. It is the logical thing to not want to waste a high draft pick. Problem is that now you would not have the quarterback of the future and it might be five years before you get another chance while Rosen/Haskins doesn’t pan out. Yes quarterback is that important and yes this is the perfect time (basically 8 preseason games for us because the season is over) to see what you got.
In 8 games we can see a whole hell of alot as far as whether it is worth developing Haskins or not Mooby. Letting him hang on the sidelines is just utter nonsense at this point. If he shows enough than we know we got our guy and we build around him. If he looks as lost in week 16 as he does now than you have to draft one of those three players. I understand you want to be patient but to what end? Why not use this lost season as an opportunity to at least get a better idea of what the right decision is. It seems to be working out well for the Cardinals.
As far as Brees and those others you mentioned I could name 20 for every one of them that did not pan out after sitting. They are obviously exceptions. Usually slow learners stay slow.