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Old 12-03-2005, 01:46 PM   #65
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Re: Talent Evaluation?

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
Gee, I wonder why he hasn't developed the tools just yet?
Well, for one thing, not everybody learns at the same pace. Steve Young wasn't a hall of fame quarterback from the start of his career by any means. Maybe alot depends on their development through their college years and the systems they grew under.

I also believe that a key element in the development of a young quarterback is to supply him max protection. Of course I believe that is vital for any quarterback to be successful, but it is essential for young quarterbacks to slow the game down enough to develop. In the case of Patrick Ramsey, he was thrown into the fire in a system where protection wasn't a huge aspect of the system. It finally caught up with him in year two of Spurrier's tenure, with Ramsey having to be sidelined because of injury. Now, I realize we have Spurrier fans here and that's okay. I love Spurrier as a college coach. I'm not bashing the guy. However, I believe his system really did a number on Patrick Ramsey.

Then you couple that with Jansen going down last season - which really cut back on the pass protection for Patrick. So, while he was supposed to have better pass protection last season (and Brunell as well,) it still wasn't the max protection that we had been used to seeing with Gibbs/Bugel offense. I think it was alot better than what Spurrier gave him, but not enough of what Patrick needed to get himself back on track. Because of this, I believe is one of the main reasons why we are seeing Mark instead of Patrick.

Of course one can argue that the pass protection isn't Patrick Ramsey's fault, and I agree with that statement. However, when the conditions are less than perfect, you need a good veteran quarterback who knows what to do to get out of trouble and make the play. Brunell has used his legs plenty of times to get us a first down or at least out of major trouble. Just look at the Dallas game for one example. So of course the next question is, how can Patrick learn to do the stuff that a vet like Brunell does to make these plays when things breakdown? Well, a part of that is watching Mark Brunell play and taking notes! Looking at film and seeing what a vet would do in certain situations. Patrick didn't have that option in his first year in the NFL. He had to learn from the likes of Danny Wuerful (ms) and Shane Matthews. Need I say more? But, I believe that watching Mark play can't hurt Patrick Ramsey. He is learning alot more about what to do, rather than what he learned not to do under the other QBs. Of course he's going to need playing time to do what he's learned by watching Brunell, but again, he needs max protection to help slow the game down so he can develop his skills.


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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
Mark Brunell does give us the best chance to win now; that's why he should remain the starter until we are definately out of the playoffs. But, at some point, when you know that the season is lost, shouldn't we look towards the future. Anyone who thinks Brunell is the future better have some miracle drugs to give him because he'll turn 36 next season.
I agree with you. Although, I'd probably put Patrick Ramsey back in the game. I am a strong believer in not forcing a rookie quarterback onto the field before his time. I realize everybody is wanting to see what Jason Campbell can do - myself included - but I think he needs one solid year on the bench to just watch the vets play and learn. Next season, I'd go back with Mark Brunell and stick with him until he gets injured or retires. At least putting Patrick Ramsey back on the field, it allows him to audition himself for other teams - although I'd probably still wanna hold on to Ramsey for one more year.
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