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Originally Posted by TAFKAS
I know. You and your Ramsey Crips will probably eternally battle me any my Brunell Bloods over whether Ramsey's progress (or perhaps lack thereof) from the end of last season to the beginning of this season should be a factor. There are those of us that maintain that the offseason (minicamp, training camp, even preseason) counts and if you can't show that you're the clear cut better option during that time then it has to be addressed. And there are those that maintain that it's not fair to judge Ramsey unless he's given an extended number of games during the regular season when it actually counts. And didn't Ramsey have two turnovers in that first quarter against the Bears, compared to none the next three for Brunell?
Anyhow, the world keeps on spinning.
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Yes, and apparently according to Ramsey the reciever made the wrong read, Gibbs used the TO argument to replace Ramsey and one of the reasons Ramsey wanted out, we didn't hear Gibbs come out and back up Ramsey on that INT like he tried to do for Brunell last week, and I think we all can agree that the fumble was a cheap shot and should have been called.
The TO argument doesn't work for me when comparing the 2 QB's, Brunell turns the ball over as much or more than Ramsey, and his TO have been more devastating to the outcome of games, he's allowed the defense to score which Ramsey has not, Brunell is supposed to be a well seasoned veteran and should not be turning the ball over like he does, that was supposed to be a big reason why Gibbs likes veterans, well if he's going to turn it over like a youngster than what's the point, give the kid a try to see if he progresses, I just don't understand the stance that Ramsey would not have progressed and gotten better with more playing time? Matty stated that it really wasen't fair to compare what Ramsey did last season comparitivly because Gibbs had gotten things on track by the time Ramsey stepped in, are we sure it wasen't Ramsey who put things on track? Thats a big coincidence, that same argument can be used this season for Ramsey, is it fair to say that Ramsey would have become even better than Brunell this season as the offensive players around him progressed as well?
Don't get me wrong I don't want to see Ramsey replace Brunell at this point in the season, this is Brunells baby let him finish it, I just think at the end of this season there will be no playoffs, and a lot of unanswered questions at QB, one of which will be what to do with an ageing QB? Do we play Campbell on a team that by year 3 is ready to take the next step? Do we go back to Brunell another year older who has proven nothing in 2 seasons? Or do we go with Ramsey who probably could care less what's promised him in the offseason, and can't get out of town fast enough?
I think we have a big problem against the Boy's come sunday.