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					Originally Posted by MTK  Anyone got advice for buying a new car?  For the last 20+ years I just bought directly from my brother who sold Fords, so now I'm on my own.  Been reading up on how to approach a dealership, things like getting pre-approved before going in, focus on the "out the door" number vs monthly payment, don't talk trade-in until the end, etc.  Anything else I should have in mind? | 
	
 dont by new 
let someone else take the new car depreciation; anything under 30k just needed maybe 3 oil changes; check car fax 
i wouldn't get a Ford 
what do you want 
i also find they like to stick to the price on the car they are selling you and play with your trade in 
you will get the most wiggle room on a used car deal, new cars they make very little on, its all about volume of new cars for them 
do not pay MARK UPs if you want a popular car keep searching or find something different; the mark ups will put you upside down in a heart beat 
toyota or honda for me
i like the RAV4 Hybrd or the RAV4 Prime, its pricey the prime
i drive a 4Runner zero issues i have had two in my life zero issues, had a 2020 explore for i think 2 months, traded it in so fast, poop on wheels