[Hogskin]

Well, first I want to say, Pardee was OUTSTANDING as a player. As a coach, I would confirm Butz' comments and add that while my recollection of his stint is not vivid, I seem to recall that he was not a good disciplinarian - too soft. Maybe some others have a clearer memory of it. However, I do not feel he was put in an unfair situation - just another of those coaches that are pretty good on one level, but not as an NFL HC.

I personally did not know much about Joe Gibbs when he first took over as Redskin coach. And, of course, it was not looking too wonderful 5 games into the season (0-5). He sure didn't waste any time AFTER that start making us believers in him, though. The guy I really did not care for at first was Bobby Beathard. Early on, he made several player moves that I was not fond of - especially with some of the team veterans. Turned out Betheard was VERY good at drafting late-round picks, not great with round 1 guys (so it was good that he usually traded them). He and Joe went around and around over some personnel decisions late in his stay here.