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Originally Posted by Buster
Somehow the Raiders have been undiciplined since I can remember. They're ALWAYS one of the most-penalized teams in the league, even way before Turner can.
Norv didn't ruin the Raiders, he just didn't help them.
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i cant stand turner. i even found myself rooting for the raiders in week 17 last year so we could have a shot at the division, and once again he let me down
