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Originally Posted by hooskins
Have you seen Ramsey play? He is a JOKE. All of the games I have seen him play, he never ever seems to comfortable. Talking about circumstances, Ramsey had top 5 defenses supporting him when he was playing, the defense did their part to help us win, he just couldn't do the rest. He has been tried and tested, and he just isnt enough. That is why we need to move on from Ramsey. We need to think about our future, and as of now it is Campbell. Ramsey barely even cuts up to being a backup, and our team needs Campbell in, maybe even losing, but getting a chance to get some regular season action.
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Tried and tested? Say what you want about the guy but where has he been tried other than SS and his no blocking offense? Ramsey got a raw deal if anyone thinks Gibbs wasen't trying to force Brunell down everbodies throat because he just had to have him and overpaid him beyond belief, besides rendering a #2 draft pick for a player who was about to be released is only kidding themselves. Ramsey was doomed from the start under Gibbs.
2 seasons under SS, then 2 seasons with Gibbs coming out of retirement trying to relive his offensive past while treating Ramsey like he was a red headed step child is not a fair opportunity for Ramsey.
Funny, Ramsey was the apple of most of these guy's eye's at the end of the 2004 season who are now bashing him, so in 1 quarter of the first game of the year against the best defense in the league Ramsey is no longer any good? He threw for more yards in 1 quarter than Brunell did the rest of the game, Gibbs was looking for any excuse whatsoever to yank the kid and keep his promise to Brunell, Gibbs was more anctious to make that change than Richard Steal was to stop the Meldrick Taylor, Julio ceasar chavez fight years back [for all you fight fans out there].
Gibbs himself has admitted he was unable to adjust his offense to the modern defenses that's why Saunders is here, but for the last 2 seasons it's been Gibbs inability to outsmart the defenses. I have stated all along that although I believe Ramsey was the man for the job because he outplayed Brunell under the same or worse conditions, that I never believed that Brunell was as bad as he was made to look in 2004, as well as in many games last season, it was more to do with Gibbs simplistic offensive approach. Let's face it it was Gibbs who named Ramsey the starter after the 2004 season, and Ramsey earned it. To bad Gibbs didn't stick with Ramsey like he did Brunell the previous season when Brunell played about as bad as A QB can play, whether or not Ramsey could lead us to the big one will probably never be known, but this much is, Gibbs was never in his corner and he never treated him with the same fairness, and opportunity that he bestowed on his beloved Brunell!
Who knows what Ramsey will do with the Jets there situation is so uncertain with a first time head coach, along with the toe, and who knows who else to throw to, who knows how things will pan out for him, but I do know this Moss is a Skin because Pennington couldn't reach him with that rag arm of his.
Anyone who thinks this guy Collins is a better fit at backup than Ramsey is crazy, we all know Brunell was starting this year but if he gets hurt Ramsey I believe would still have been our best option for this season, I don't like the trade.
Funny thing about the Fiedler, Ramsey comparison, Miami offered a #2 pick for Ramsey to replace Fiedler as thier QB, obviously Miami thought Ramsey was better, unfortuntly Gibbs kept this apparent loser so he could trade him for a 6th round pick later on, what a deal. Seems to me according to all these Ramsey bashers that we could have replaced him with just about anyone, I am surprised Gibbs didn't pick up on that, We could have used that #2 to get Campbell and saved a #1.