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I'll wait until I actually get to try madden out, I'll wait to say which one has better gameplay. and it will be hard to beat espn 2k5 even though madden is deeper in its franchise mode to an extent. Playing the actual game means the most to me and all the extra stuff is just bonus stuff. with espn 2k5 being better than madden 2004 and very few upgrades in madden this year, I just don't see the extra franchise stuff in madden being worth $30. It's easy to say madden's the best when its pretty much been the only football game around worth buying for the last 15 years, but its looking more and more like that can't be said for once this year.
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