[SKINSnCANES]

what are you talking about with theribeing very few upgrades in madden this year?!?!? And if gameplay is what you want and dont care about the bonus stuff then you theres no reason in my opinion to want 2k5, becuase thats all it has going is the presentation and graphics. The movement is unnatural in 2k5. Plus madden will be the only one with realistic game play, a first for a football game. No more just throwing the bomb, and throwing off of one foot and having a perfect spiral. Im tempted to just start playing the nwe madden on the all madden level becuase of how real they say it is. It will be hard at first but it'll just make me a better player in the long run. 2k5 is cheaper, but if you acutally play the game for more then head to head purposes the 'bonus stuff' is worth 30 dolalrs to make it mroe realistic. I would consider bonus stuff to be the VIP room in 2k5, yea its cool to see waht youve done, but what does buying bobble heads have to do with gameplay or trades or anything like that.