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Originally Posted by mheisig
Maybe Lloyd wasn't "lousy," but he was never that great. Put his numbers up against any #1 WR in the league and he pales in comparison. His production at San Francisco and his production here puts him squarely as a #2, and even there he doesn't match up with guys like Reggie Wayne, TJ Houshmandzadeh or any of a number of other #2 WRs in the league.
He's athletic and probably has great potential, but his stats through his first four seasons in the NFL simply do not bear out that he's much of anything at this point. His highest total in a season is 733 yards and hasn't caught more than six TDs in a season. It's not like he had a real standout season at one point and we're all hoping he will reach that level again. He's never BEEN at the level before.
Hell, through his first four years Lloyd has 13 TDs. There are a number of WRs in this league who put up those numbers in a single season, not four. If he wants to get paid like a bigshot WR, and talk like a bigshot WR, he better start putting up some stats or just shut his mouth and take a much smaller paycheck.
Anyone arguing that Lloyd is a top-flight WR and is being held back by coaches, trainers, bad circumstances, a poor diet, the janitor who looked askance at him or his homophobia is simply basing it on conjecture and hope because his statistical production proves otherwise.
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You site receivers who have all pro QB's, something Lloyd has not come close to, what were Randy Moss's stats last season without a QB? Oakland said he had a chronic knee problem and is not the WR he used to be, I guess they were right he's better than he used to be, the question is why? Could it be the team and the QB? So if there is nothing there in Lloyd why did Gibbs have to have this guy? Sorry but playing in an inept system like San fran, and then coming over to us only to have the likes of Brunell throwing to him doesn't make him a bust, every time I see the guy he's beating his man down field. If you want to say he doesn't fit in, then fine, because that pretty much seems to be whats going on here, but he can't throw the ball to himself.