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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha
I don't think that there is a big difference between how we see this issue GTripp. But, I cannot agree that Betts will be better than Portis (unless the O-line improves). I also cannot agree that Portis is getting tripped up by whatever blew across in the breeze. The guy is still one damn physical back and he usually doesn't go down by just getting touched.
Dgack,
I am definitely disappointed in Portis' production. However, I think 90% of his woes have to do with the piss-poor play of the O-line and the fact that defenses know that we are going to run left a disproportionate amount of the time. I do agree though that Portis' numbers don't justify his salary. With regard to Betts, I think we can all agree that we signed him at rock-bottom prices.
I heard a lot of people saying Edge had "lost IT" after he went to Arizona. Now that Russ Grimm is coaching Arizona's line, surprise, surprise, the Edge has IT again. IMO, if our line starts playing better, we will see Portis start posting great numbers again and he will have rediscovered IT.
Finally, I hope you know that I am not pissy with you. You have presented coherent arguments. I have enjoyed talking with people like you and GTripp about this subject. I just can't the posters who write things like "Porits stikns , he is being the worstest back ever."
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Nice reference about Edge....and very true. I've just read through all 5 pages of this thread, and I actually think most of these points are valid. Obviously with the O line injuries, the running game isn't working great...but it does seem to me that Portis isn't what he used to be....he's not making anyone miss and most of the time is brought down by 1 guy, granted a lot of times that guy is in the backfield, but he doesn't seem to have that quickness and burst like he used to....and the same thing goes for Moss as well....neither of them look right. I just hope it is some small injury or something and not attitude or something like that.
For the people that were talking about the $$$ that Portis is making vs. Betts, to me the money wasted right now is on Saunders. This play calling is nothing spectacular by any means, and I honestly feel that IF Joe was still calling the plays....there wouldn't be much difference....hell it may be even better and he'd be more involved and might give this offense an identity that it certainly does not have right now.