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Old 01-09-2008, 12:14 AM   #57
Daseal
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Re: Len Pastabelly on Gibbs' Retirement: "Just An Ordinary Joe"

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Did "Gibbs II" meet our expectations? No, we all thought Gibbs' mere presence at Redskins Park would restore our franchise to greatness. In that regard, our expectations were too high. We expected Gibbs to step in after an 12 year hiatus and take a disorganized franchise with a weak roster and, overnight, to bring us Super Bowl berths in short order.

Is Gibbs II's record, when viewed in a vacuum without regard to history, satisfactory? No, any time your team posts a losing record over the course of 4 years fans will be upset.

HOWEVER, we should not look at Gibbs' record in a vacuum. As has been pointed out many times, Gibbs took a joke of a team with a pretty sad roster (Ramsey was our #1 QB, Trung Canidate was our #1 TE, Zeron Flemister was our #1 TE, etc.) and restored it to respectability. That is quite a feat. Gibbs took us to two playoff appearances in four years. Gibbs won a playoff game. Gibbs made us a contender. Gibbs brought us a good staff. Gibbs brought us a roster filled with guys like Chris Cooley, Laron Landry, Carlos Rogers, Rocky McIntosh, the departed Sean Taylor, Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis and the list goes on.

Despite Gibbs' recent retirement, the final chapter on Gibbs II has not been written. Wait a year or two, see how our younger players develop, see how this team fares with Gibbs' legacy, and then judge him. But, given the general state of things at Redskins Park, the future, IMO, looks brighter than it has in decades.
Everything you've stressed here I agree with. You're saying Gibbs brought in some stability, coaching staff, and players -- no doubt about that,I can't think of someone who will contest that. My issue has been with the Xs and Os. All I was trying to say is that this article really wasn't that bad -- Gibbs had some problems in his tenure the 2nd time around when it came to the coaching aspect, why can't we just recognize that instead of fighting to hide it. He'll be the first person to admit he's far from infallible.

In short: Joe Gibbs was great as a team president, but his second stint lacked in the Xs and Os, the article I feel more or less says that he was a great leader of men, but not necessarily equipped to coach in the modern day NFL. People seem to act as if Gibbs could never do wrong, and that becomes annoying. He was great at leading and president type of activities, but he wasn't the same coaching powerhouse he was in the 80s and 90s.
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