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Old 07-22-2008, 01:37 PM   #14
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Re: Jeremy Shockey is a Saint

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Originally Posted by Paintrain View Post

Ok, back in the real world.. I'd love to hear Giants fans convince me now that they are better than 3rd or 4th in the division. They lost 2 players that were top 10 at their position (Strahan & Shockey), 2 LB and a starting safety. Their star WR is upset at his contract and hardly practices anyways. Add in a Super Bowl hangover and they've got 6-10 written all over them..

It's not my job to convince you of anything.I'm pretty sure even an honest Skins fan can admit we still have a pretty good D line without Strahan ...who did platoon last year,as for Shockey we showed what we could do once he went down and that just wasn't a one game fluke,11 straight away games.Truth be told with the lack of respect people are giving the Giants ....I can see wild card all over again.This is what I like about the Shockey deal
1) No one even knows if he'll be healthy enough to play this year
2)He hasn't finished a whole season with the Giants yet
3)He a great TE.....but.selfish and not a team player
4)He's played 7 season and health wise maybe can only play a little more.
5) penalties will go down.........
6)losing him taught the team how to be a team.
7) ...and we could get a #1....LOL
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Off chance Giants could end up with Saints' first-rounder

Back in April the Giants were holding out for a first-round pick in return for Jeremy Shockey. And though it’s a longshot, they still could get one.

That’s because the second-round pick that the Saints sent to the Giants as part of the Shockey trade could end up going to the Jets as part of the Jonathan Vilma deal. And if that happens, the Saints would have to send the Giants their first-round pick in 2010 instead.

How could that happen?

Well, back in February, the Jets shipped Vilma to the Saints for a fourth-round pick in the 2008 draft and a conditional second- or third-rounder in 2009. According to the conditions of the trade, if Vilma plays in 85 percent of the defensive plays this season and signs a contract extension with the team, the ‘09 pick would be in the second round.

Since that’s the same second-rounder the Saints included in their deal with the Giants, when they agreed to ship a second- and a fifth-rounder in 2009 for Shockey, they obviously wouldn’t be able to complete that deal as is. So instead, they’d have to ship their 2010 first-round pick to the Giants.

Of course the odds of that happening are slim since the Saints control everything in that scenario. Not only could they hold back Vilma’s playing time if he approaches 85 percent, but they also could simply wait to sign him to a contract extension.

So don’t count on getting the first-rounder. But at least it’s a possibility.
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