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Hail to the Redskins · 11-16-2004, 05:12 PM

OK guys... let's be completely honest. Let's compare talent with ... just off the top of my head.. the Atlanta Falcons...

Defense
WAS - #2 Defense (#1 Defense much of the year without Barrow, Arrington, Bowen, etc.)
ATL - #21 Defense

... obviously stronger here

Wide Receivers
WAS - Coles, Gardner, Thrash, Jacobs, McCants... Cooley
ATL - P. Price, Dez White (#2 receiver?? yikes), Finneran (yikes yikes!), Jenkins (rookie with 1 catch)... and Crumpler (by far their best option this year)

... I think it is pretty clear that we grade way higher here...

Running Back
WAS - Clinton Portis
ATL - Dunn and Duckett (Vick is their leading rusher)

... I can't think of one NFL team that would rather have those 2 over Clinton

Offensive Line
WAS - Portis 4.0 avg - 22 sacks allowed to 30-something QB with hammy problems and a stautous P-Ram.
ATL - Dunn 3.8 avg. - 30 sacks allowed to MICHAEL VICK

... at the VERY LEAST a draw here... but with Jansen healthy, I gotta go us

Record
WAS - 3-6
ATL - 7-2

... Hmmm.. something doesn't add up ... where's the difference?

Two Possibilities:
Quarterback
WAS - Brunell and Ramsey - 1561 yds, 49.5% comp, 10 TD, 11 INT
ATL - Vick - 1537 yds, 57.9% comp, 7 TD, 7 INT (536 yds rushing)

... naturally, as talent goes, I think you give this to Vick...

Coaching
WAS - Legendary Joe Gibbs (127-66 overall record, .658 Win Pct)
ATL - First year coach Jim Mora (7-2 overall record, .778 Win Pct)

... Well... Mora DOES have the higher Win Pct?? ...ummm.. yeah, this one goes to us

So ok... we have the better defense, running back, wide receiving core, a VERY comparable O-Line, and a Hall of Fame coach. The only deficiency... QB.

Again... Atlanta is 7-2... we are 3-6. If anyone here can say our problem is talent, they are nuts. I HAVE to say the poison killing this team has been the combination of QB play and Gibbs playcalling. WE definitely have 7-2 talent... we just can NEVER put it together!!!

Anyone wanna argue this with me??

11-16-2004, 05:12 PM	#15
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	OK guys... let's be completely honest. Let's compare talent with ... just off the top of my head.. the Atlanta Falcons... Defense WAS - #2 Defense (#1 Defense much of the year without Barrow, Arrington, Bowen, etc.) ATL - #21 Defense ... obviously stronger here Wide Receivers WAS - Coles, Gardner, Thrash, Jacobs, McCants... Cooley ATL - P. Price, Dez White (#2 receiver?? yikes), Finneran (yikes yikes!), Jenkins (rookie with 1 catch)... and Crumpler (by far their best option this year) ... I think it is pretty clear that we grade way higher here... Running Back WAS - Clinton Portis ATL - Dunn and Duckett (Vick is their leading rusher) ... I can't think of one NFL team that would rather have those 2 over Clinton Offensive Line WAS - Portis 4.0 avg - 22 sacks allowed to 30-something QB with hammy problems and a stautous P-Ram. ATL - Dunn 3.8 avg. - 30 sacks allowed to MICHAEL VICK ... at the VERY LEAST a draw here... but with Jansen healthy, I gotta go us Record WAS - 3-6 ATL - 7-2 ... Hmmm.. something doesn't add up ... where's the difference? Two Possibilities: Quarterback WAS - Brunell and Ramsey - 1561 yds, 49.5% comp, 10 TD, 11 INT ATL - Vick - 1537 yds, 57.9% comp, 7 TD, 7 INT (536 yds rushing) ... naturally, as talent goes, I think you give this to Vick... Coaching WAS - Legendary Joe Gibbs (127-66 overall record, .658 Win Pct) ATL - First year coach Jim Mora (7-2 overall record, .778 Win Pct) ... Well... Mora DOES have the higher Win Pct?? ...ummm.. yeah, this one goes to us So ok... we have the better defense, running back, wide receiving core, a VERY comparable O-Line, and a Hall of Fame coach. The only deficiency... QB. Again... Atlanta is 7-2... we are 3-6. If anyone here can say our problem is talent, they are nuts. I HAVE to say the poison killing this team has been the combination of QB play and Gibbs playcalling. WE definitely have 7-2 talent... we just can NEVER put it together!!! Anyone wanna argue this with me?? __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)