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Old 11-08-2008, 01:44 PM   #39
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Re: McIntosh & Landry

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins View Post
To all of those who want to speak so thoroughly about their plethora of defensive coordinating and true judge of how well a player plays and speak about how ignorant it is to criticize Landry...

Watch him attempt tackles and tell me it textbook... those of you who can't agree with criticism of him in this area never played football....

Secondly... use arguments backed by facts if you are going to tell other people how stupid they are... Share with us the matrix that says we give up fewer pass plays of 20+ yards than anyone else in football... I checked and we are tied for 7th in the NFL in giving up pass plays of 20+ and tied for 14th in giving up plays of 40+ .... good enough, but definitely not suggesting NO ONE is going for big passing plays against us... if you look at ALL passing matrix, you would be gushing about our CORNERS moreso than Landry...

If teams are throwing underneath like you all say because they are so terrified of Laron Landry, then their completion pcts should be avg/above avg, but we are 4th in this area (only 55%! awesome!)

Look... I'm not a Landry hater. Do I like how he acted this offseason? No. But I am just talking about his play thus far this season... Do I think he a great athlete who has tremendous potential? Yes. I am just not sold on his work ethic (and, therefore results) to this point.

Also... McIntosh is on pace for 80 tackles, 1 sack, and ZERO ints... AND FOUR PASSES DEFENDED. Check for SLBs around the league playing this same position in the 4-3 and tell me he is above average....

I posted because I HAVE been watching them both show up LATE to plays, make misreads, and try and tackle with shoulders and forearms instead of wrapping up.

I just thought it was worth validly discussing... not being lectured on how Laron Landry is better than Ed Reed... lol
First of all - Chill.

If you wanted to creat a great discussion thread, that got alot of people voicing their opinions, you have succeeded.

That said, I'll give it to you that some of Landry's tackles are not fundamental tackles (and I have played football, since you threw that in there too). You are right, statistics should have been brought up before the word stupid was used. Now that you have put the facts up, whats wrong with 7th for 20+? Hell, even 14th for 40+? And, this DOES fall back on the corners more that it does on Landry.

As far as I'm concerned, the only valid argument towards Landry's play thus far is his tackling. He tackles high, and he doesn't wrap up all the time. He is big, but not big enough to drop a shoulder above the waiste on RBs and expect them to drop.

Thats it.
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