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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon
No, I do not think Krenzel is any good.
The win over the Titans is an example of why. Thje offense generated all of 3 points. Krenzel had about 100 yards passing and a QB rating of 20 or so. The defense scored a TD on an interception return by a defensive lineman the special teams ascored a TD on a punt return. That gave the Bears 17 points and forced a tie and sent the gaem to OT.
In OT, the defense won the game with a safety.
That does not make Krenzel the hero or the guy who "won the game" I'd take Ramsey with his right arm in a sling before I'd take Krenzel.
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So what's your argument then? When someone brings up Ramsey's stats, you dismiss them and say it's the won-loss record that matters. Then when Krenzel is brought up, you dismiss his won-loss record.
I think we need to consider both the stats and the wins. The basic argument is Ramsey has put up some decent stats for a young QB. True he doesn't have the wins that you'd like to see, but as we can see from Krenzel, the team around you plays a big part in that.