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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I don't think we can discount the fact that Jason Campbell may not be suited for the WCO. Gibbs drafted him for his strong arm and deep throwing abilities downfield.

I don't really understand which part of the OP or thread you are replying to...but i appreciate your addition to the thread

Why isn't JC a good fit for the WCO?
The only people i've heard say anything of the sort are bloggers and non-football savvy media types.
Zorn (who just so happens to now a thing or two about grooming a QB) really seems to like JC.
-Also having a strong arm and the ability to throw deep doesn't preclude a QB from being good at the WCO: Farve, McNabb, Cutler, Rodgers etc...

If the WCO is all about the QB making quick decisions, yet we all criticize him for checking down too quickly, then that's a dilemma. They say this system takes a while to learn. And it may be that it'll take every bit of two full years or more for Campbell to get this offense down pat.

Again who is this 'we' that criticizes JC for checking down to early?

Holmgren has said that it takes 3 years to master the WCO, and JC in his 1st year in the WCO is ahead of where other 1st year WCO QBs have typically been.

Then there's the question of Jim Zorn's abilities as a tactician, a gameplanner, his instincts for in-game adjustments, and his knack for playcalling. Not of which are solid, and are testament to the fact that Zorn is still learning the basic in's and out's of this job.

No doubt that Zorn is learning.
But, if you look at the offense during the 6-2 stretch many were praising Zorn's offense and ESPN Jaw's was considering JC as a league MVP candidate.

The point i was trying to make in the OP is that Zorn needs help.

He's basically installing the WCO by himself without a QB coach, without an experienced WCO OC, w/o WCO WR coach, w/o WCO Offensive line coach, w/o any WCO assistants.

During the off-season (OTA/training camp) Zorn had much more time to design and install the successful offense that we all enjoyed during the early season. The 6-2 start IMO is proof that Zorn knows how to design an effective offense and call plays.

But, as the season progressed teams adjusted to Zorn's offense and offensive line play declined.
And IMO during the hustle and grind of the regular season Zorn may not have seen where adjustments were needed without another coach knowledge in the WCO to make suggestions.
And even if Zorn did want to make adjustments it would likely be quite difficult for the HC himself to make the changes to the offense w/o help from other coaches knowledgeable in the system.

That's why I really wonder if Vinny and Danny truly understood the magnitude of bringing in Jim Zorn and implementing this system. It doesn't look like this was the design of people who believe we are just one step away from greatness, and who operate with a 'win now right now' philosophy.

I figure(assume) that Vinnie understands that installing the WCO is not a quick fix. Afterall Vinnie did spend some time with the 49ers during their run.
And from last years draft and Vinnie's recent statements building through the draft i hope the days of 'quick fix football' are over.