[sportscurmudgeon]

Redskins P:

I could not agree more. The players should be accountable for losing.

On another thread here, someone actually did go and dig up Ramesy's stats for his first 15 or so starts and comapred those stats to Manning and Favre and a whole bunch of other QBs and showed how Ramsey's stats were better. So, let me echo Wilbon here. Ramsey is a decent young QB with a whole lot to learn and with a whole lot of improving to do before we start to call him "above average". Let's not make him out to be Manning.


To several folks here:

Are you sure that Spurrier "quit on us" or was he "encouraged to leave" much the same way that Butch Davis and the Browns have just parted ways? If you are certain of that, please explain how you know that...


bedlamVR:

Danny Boy fired a Norv Turner when the team still had a shot at making the playoffs - and it went into the tank on him. What was the issue? Starting Jeff George at QB which is what interim coach Terry Robiske "decided on his own" was the thing to do as soon as he got the job. How'd that work out?

Oh, BTW, which genius brought Jeff George here in the first place? HInt: It wasn't Norv or Charlie Casserley or the Tooth Fairy. Is that the same guy who is so focused on winning that all he does is make the team better every year? Same question applies to Darrell Russell last season. Oh, and Deion too at the end of his career. And keeping Bruce Smith around an extra two years so he could break the sack record as a Redskin helped a lot too. Remember when Smith was not starting and he ran to Danny Boy who told the coach to make sure Bruce got his PT?

How do the Patriots manage to win without paying what you call market value and what I call the "Redskins' sucker price" for free agents? They don't seem to wind up with what you call a "fat wallet" AND a team of players who seem to be able to win. Same with the Eagles and the Steelers. Danny Boy winds up with a huge payroll and a team of players that can't find a way to stop losing. Remember, the Redskins with all the great signings you attribute to Danny Boy over the past two years are 8 - 19 over those two seasons. The Redskins have had the highest payroll in the NFL for both of the past two years and the result is 8-19. If anyone other than the owner had produced that record, he'd be fired and most of the people here would be volunteering to tar and feather the dope on the way out of town. But since he's the owner and you know he ain't leaving, you just suck it up and try to rationalize his moves - - and you secretly pray that his next ones work out about 300% better than the last ones.

After the great Jetskins raid, what happened to the Jets' record and what happened to the Skins' record? Given what we paid to their players and given that we gave them nothing in return, I know I'd expect results that were a bit different from what happened. Unless of course, we didn't take their really top-drawer talent from them...