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Originally Posted by GTripp0012
I think your assumption is that I'm supposed to value popularity voting contests over statistics/what a guy has actually done, but you know me better than that.
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Come on man...do I really care about popularity? If it was 2 Cy's to none, sure, I see your point, but 7 to 0??? There is something there.
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I also think you're too wrapped up in this Blyleven 4 vs. Clemens 8 thing. I ranked Blyleven above Clemens because he was more deserving. I would vote for him for the HoF before Clemens, if I had a vote. If you are asking me flat out: whos better, Clemens or Blyleven, Clemens has the numbers. I didn't envoke the steroid argument because it's only relevant if you are looking at career totals and comparing out of context, which you weren't doing.
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Are you saying Clemens is better here? If so, yes, I am confused at how Bert was 4th on your list and Clemens was 8th.
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As for the Cone's, Smoltz', and Kevin Brown, well, Bert was a little bit better. Not that they weren't great players. It doesn't make much sense to say Bert shouldn't be in the hall of fame, as he clearly should, but I wanted to get Clemens in my top ten because he was too good not to put there. I just don't think he's top five good.
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Then why do you think he isn't?