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Originally Posted by GTripp0012
First, read the Clemens post.
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5th all-time in strikeouts.
9th all-time in shutouts.
27th all-time in wins.
A 2.59 ERA in postseason.
A 2.35 ERA in the World Series.
Put Blyleven in the hall of fame.
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3rd all time in strikeouts.
9th all time in wins.
21st in w/l percentage.
LOL...you use postseason stats...he made the postseason in only 3 of his 22 seasons. Clemens made it in 12 of his 24 seasons.
Interesting stats...home runs allowed by bert, 430 (good for 8th all time), and 15th in hits all time. His 250 losses ranks 10th on the all time list as well, and his 1830 earned runs ranks 10th all time.
I can respect your love for Bert, but I can't understand why you would think he was better than Clemens. Yes, I am focusing on your ranking. The position you tried to portray was his 30's, but clearly that arguement held no water. So where does Bert deserve a ranking ahead of Clemens?
According to baseball reference, his black ink suggests he should not be a hall of famer, and his hall of fame standards are exactly 50 which is an AVERAGE hall of famer. At least his grey ink and hall of fame monitor are above the average hall of famer, but this does not suggest a clear cut hall of famer. I'd vote for him simply cause I think those all time players did it the legit way, but that's no way to vote for a player. My vote would be if he dominated his era, and clearly Bert did not.