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Old 07-20-2009, 06:54 PM   #446
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Re: Obama Care

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And most everyone here has been debating just these issues and the role of government and private enterprise in resolving them for pages on end. Has anyone taken the consistent position that the current status of health is not an issue of public health to be addressed? Schneed10 has consistently said the current system is stressed to the breaking.

In response to these discussions and outside a handful of posts you have been dismissive those who assert a different point of view than yours or who believe the solution lies outside a simple transference of wealth (either direct or indirect) to "take more peope into the system". In response to attempts to define the issue and identify the root causes in competition you blantantly dismiss legitimate economic theory as magic. Further, throughout this thread and similar threads, you have brought the assertionof hypocrisy in american history, wishes for death of those who disagree with you, and a blatantly causal attitude to the concerns that it is our children who be bearing the costs of our current greed to the discussion.
I have opinions, some of which people aren't going to like. I am, however, concerned about your dismissive attitude with my "assertion" and misrepresentation of position. I'm also concerned with your lack of concern displayed by you lot when Bush was spending money from left to right and sending you a tax-cut check. I think you should hold off playing these cards.

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NOW after 29 pages, innumberable discusssions of the points raised in the above post, you "get it". Perhaps if you had come off your high horse earlier, admitted that your belief system may just not be infallible and considered points of view that did not necessarily fall with your self-approved economic and philosophical theories, you could have brought your considerable talents to constructive solutions rather than an arrogant dismissal of real questions that need to be addressed.

It's not that "There are many things we can do yet people here don't seem to want to bother." It's that almost everything has a down side to it and, unless the discussion realizes and incorporates the underlying competing philosophies, it will not begin to cut the gordian knot that is the american health care system.

Come have some tea with me saden, I don't care if we use the kettle or the pot.
I've always gotten it Joe and I've always held the belief that there no game without some pain and intimated as much. Do me a favor though, lets not act like you and a lot of folks in here aren't playing polo and sipping on a drink of your fancy either.

I like mint flavored green tea.
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