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Old 07-20-2009, 11:43 PM   #473
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Re: Obama Care

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Originally Posted by saden1 View Post
aaaaannd you're not interested coming up with a solution of your own and only capable of pointing out what you think won't work. Why don't you just say "can't do it, why bother?" and save some bandwidth?

You're also not comfortable with holding all the players to the same standard interms of cost effectiveness. Plus cost effectiveness is subjective. I'm willing to pay more in taxes to get the benefit of covering as many people as possible and you folks are not, thus wanting to keep more of your money.
How much Saden? How much does the magic wallet have to come up with? Is there any price too high? It's not "a no pain no gain" issue. It's a "how much pain for how much gain" issue?

Again, I have asserted that effective health care reform must first address cost. I have suggested ways in which this could be done. Essentially, I think we need to create a worker's comp equivalent for malpractice. You pooh poohed this w/out understanding the way it shifts liability and its effect on costs. I have also asked Schneed what the costs involved in expanding medicaid to cover those currently uninsured. Not sure if its feasible but, in combination with loweiring litigation and malpractice costs - I wonder if there is a way to move in this direction. Schneed has also pointed out in the Healthcare Info thread that, in some cases, the competition for patients actually drives up costs and has suggested that, if this could be addressed, it may be an effective way of cost reduction.

I have consistently stated that, if Obama can find a way to lower costs and maintain quality, I will pay an extra 10% on top of my current premium to ensure that every U.S. citizen receives basic health care. (You asked me at one point what decrease in quality of care I am willing to accept - as to me, if everyone gets basic care, I am willing to suffer a decrease in care. Howerver, as to my kids, I have a zero tolerance for decline).

Others have also indicated that additional taxes would be acceptable if the end result is an effective system. However, a wealth transference in an already out of wack system simply feeds the beast and doesn't address teh underlying problem of spiraling costs.

What is your suggestion to control costs b/c it is my firm belief that effective health care reform starts there. Oh wait, in your mind, costs in the health care market are irrelevant to Aunt Jane and Uncle Joe and the government's ability to intervene.
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