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Originally Posted by joeredskin

remember, belicheck was also a retread. Dungy didn't win a sb with "the team he built" in tbay. He had to be a "retread" in indy to get it. Retread j. Gruden won his sb against the team he built in oakland. Retread t. Coughlin won a sb after being run out on a rail from jacksonville. Retread d. Vermeil got a sb with the rams and got damn close with kcity.

None of these coaches were successful in their first stints. You're right - patience is required but there may be something to be said for hiring a coach who knows how to manage a game and build a team. Even if he doesn't bring championships, maybe as dungy did in tbay, they can set the stage for further success.

but - for the record - i am with the "first gm, then hc" crowd. I just think a new gm should not discount those with hc exp. Just b/c they didn't win a gazillion sb's in their first stint.

me toooo!