[over the mountain]

davy - yeah i gotta agree with you there. i remember the year before we signed lloyd and ARE our passing game lacked any vertical movement which was they most glaring complaint and need for the team at the time. gibbs had brought in stop-gap guys like reche caldwell and irving friar b/c we had noone so the next year we signed lloyd and ARE. (am i right on irving friar that year or was that earlier?)

but i guess the decision to tear up lloyds contract with 1 year remaining and giving him a new lucatrive one before you even saw him in burgundy and gold was on vinny. why not let him audition for a year then asses his contract value? of course im taking an educated guess that vinny was the one in control of lloyds contract decision.

warpaint - it has been rumored the giants offered more than the skins, somthing like 103 to 108 mil. i personally like how the AH contract is set up assuming next year is uncapped and 20+ mil of the guaranteed money he is set to get next year actually gets done and off the books going forward after next year.