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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I have put plenty of thought into this and I disagree with the idea that I am undervaluing our players. The people who want to flat out release Haynesworth and Hall for nothing are undervaluing players. And the people who think we are going to get anything near a first round pick or multiple picks for any of these guys are in fantasy land.

Agree.

You cannot completely ignore the cap numbers because if we trade the guys their contract goes with them. I am not worried about our cap hit, I am talking about the salaries in their current deals.

So there are two problems with Portis. One, a lot of people (I am not one of them) think he is done because of mileage and age. The second problem is his contract. Portis was the highest paid runningback this last year and produced like a backup. Good football teams don't spend ridiculous amounts of money on old runningbacks. Seattle and Arizona did it recently and both were burned. Except for a few guys, runningbacks are interchangeable. Teams would let us release Portis and then sign him but NOBODY is going to trade us anything for him.

That's where sign and trade comes in. If my understanding is correct. We redo his contract to an acceptable amount for the new team, sign him to that deal and then trade him. Obviously we have to eat the signing bonus, but it's not a cap hit in an uncapped year. I think we could get a 4th or so for Portis, if so I jump on that deal rather than get nothing.

Cooley - yes he is worth something but I don't see anyone giving us more than a third. He is expensive for a tight end and his contract would go with him.

Sign & trade again, and if it's a high third I make the deal, probably a mid-third also.

Landry is probably the most valuable guy in your list but we would be trading him while his value is at its lowest. We might be able to get a second rounder for him but with his coverage struggles recently, maybe not.

same with Landry, if I can get a 2nd or high 3rd he's gone, anything lower and I hang onto him. He must be moved to SS in any scenario and can't be used in any type of Cover-2 Zone scheme.

If Campbell was worth a second rounder he would have already been gone and we would have Cutler. So 3rd is the highest possible pick and I am not convinced the interest is out there.

Give me a third for Campbell and I'd break my hand trying to sign the deal too fast. I'd take even a fourth for him.

Rogers - I am sure we could get a 3rd rounder for Rogers maybe a 2nd. He is an above average cornerback, solid against the run and is still working off his rookie deal.

Agree here too, if we can't get value for him we hang onto him.