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Old 12-29-2009, 11:35 PM   #154
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Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
I have "watched some tape" this year and unless you and I are watching vastly different tape, JC does struggle with blitz recognition, getting a good pre-read on the opposing D, making his progressions if his 1st option isn't there, making accurate throws more than 10 yds downfield, and certainly ball security.

I haven't been able to "watch the tape" and do reviews since the Eagles game, but what has changed since then? I've watched the games, but not gone back to review them, but I'm still seeing the same things.

Eagles:
JC's play continues to be poor. JC is still going through his "wind-up" and "pat-patting" the ball, costing a fumble and missed completions because the ball comes out late.
He left two TDs on the field, one to Moss and the other to ARE on a corner. He flat out missed a wide open Moss. On the play to ARE, he releases the ball late and off-target. He should've thrown to just inside the front pylon, rather than two yards out of bounds at the three.
He also didn't read the blitzes properly, call correct protections, or go to a hot receiver to slow down the Iggles blitz.
I'm not saying JC is the only problem we have, he's not. But he's not part of the solution either. He made a few good plays, but the mistakes he makes and limitations he has week in and week out are not tolerable. He will not be more than a back-up anywhere else.

Chiefs:
- Campbell's time in DC is done. This is for the best, I like JC. He works hard and is a quality young man. I wish him a fresh start somewhere else. Based on the last few weeks, JC has limitations that will hold us back from ever being a top level team in the NFL. His ball security continues to be poor, his delivery is too long, he's locking on to his primary receiver and isn't hitting passes that are open.

Examples:
1) 2nd possession. 2 & 8, This should be a quick pass to Moss, JC has a slight pump in his delivery, he's off-balance, the ball comes out late and way low. Incomplete. The next play is 3 & 8, Zorn has on a Max Protect call and with 3 WRs vs. 7 DBs JC has to check-down to Cooley short of the first.
2) Next possession, JC misses an open DT for a TD. There was no help for Flowers, no Safety to worry about. JC just missed this throw, plain and simple.
JC does make a good play on 3 & 11 to get the ball to Cooley, who keeps the drive alive.
3) Same possession 3 & 3, JC overthrows ARE on an open whip route.
4) Next possession 1 & 10. Post to Moss....TD missed.
5) Same possession, 3 & 4. KC is in Cover 2 Man, JC locks on to Cooley and forces the throw low and incomplete. ARE was open on a quick slant, Kelly was open on a dig behind ARE's slant also. JC had time.
6) The drive to end the first half was Zorn and Campbell. On 3 & 1 with :53 left, why does it take :22 seconds to run a 1 yd dive and then reset for the next play? Why weren't two plays called? Why not get to the line and spike on 1st down? Why on the next play throw a 5 yds pass in the middle of the field to Portis? Why not out of bounds?
7) Next play, why take off and run? Where are the sideline routes? How about trying to isolate Kelly or Thomas and get a jump ball or pass interference?

All these plays above (outside of playcalling issues at the end of the half)were flat out on JC, no one else. These plays alone were the difference in the game. Two missed TDs and three killed drives because of QB mistakes. Zorn was right to bench JC.

Panthers:
- Jason Campbell's limitations. While he didn't kill us this week, he fumbles again in the pocket and almost fumbled a second time. He isn't improving his ball security. Zorn is clearly protecting him with the playcalling. Out of 23 pass attempts, 13 were quick passes to 1 receiver (no reads) or screens. 3 were play-action, of the other 7, 4 were the TE delay play. Zorn isn't putting Campbell in a position to drop-back or sit in the gun, read the D and make throws based on progressions/reads.

Granted the OL protection was not good overall for the day, but I'm not seeing Campbell progressing week-to-week. Samuels getting hurt couldn't come at a worse time for evaluating JC. I was one who felt the OL problems late last year were to blame for the lack of production late in the year and JC would progress with a whole off-season to get the full grasp of the offense. What we've seen so far is zero or minimal improvement in JC, certainly not to the point where opposing defenses view him as a threat to beat them in the passing game.
- JC calling timeout when Carolina brought 6 up to the LoS in the 4th Qtr. Why? I wish we knew the problem, is it a JC reading the D problem. Is it Zorn's communication or restriction on JC? Whatever it is, it shouldn't happen. The QB sees a D not right for the play call, audible the damn thing. You come out from C and don't like what you see, throw it away. No need for a conference with the coach, just go on to the next play.

Bucs: This one was pretty long so I just linked it

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post603553

JC has put up career numbers this year, but that doesn't mean improvement. He's also put up career highs in interceptions (15, more than double last year), Interception percentage (3.2%, double last year), he's fumbled 10 times this year, and his QB rating is up only 0.7%. Much of the numbers that have helped his QB rating have been late in games that were realistically out of reach or a high number of screens that RBs & TEs have made plays on. He has left TDs on the field and made mistakes in critical situations.

There are certainly other problems the Redskins have, but the negatives of JC far outweigh the positives and we need to move on. If we can't get Clausen (we won't, he'll be off the board no later than # 3) we've got plenty of needs at OL, RB, LB and secondary. Rebuild there and bring in a stop-gap QB until we can grab Luck in 2011. We need to be prepared for at least a 2 year rebuilding process or until we find our franchise QB.

And I would take Rodgers in a heartbeat over JC, Romo, Warner, Favre, Pennington, and Eli.
These are all games I broke down as well though. I mean, we've reached different conclusions, apparently, but it's the same tape. And while there's plenty of room for disagreement on the topic of this thread, factual falsehoods are unnecessary to back your point.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...you-still.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...-gamblers.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...ing-title.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...ve-review.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...ve-review.html

You'll find plenty of critiques of Campbell's play throughout my work, but neither you or I noticed anything about blitz recognition or pre-snap issues.

Everything you mentioned is along the lines of "Campbell left this throw on the table", "He flat out missed this throw", "Needed this third down conversion, Campbell low and behind". Granted.

You never really mentioned anything about pre-snap read or blitz recognition struggles, and this is because they aren't in anyway pronounced. It's a falsification of the evidence.

These are GREAT tape breakdowns. You absolutely did a fantastic job on them and I thought, at the time, that what I was seeing defended your analysis.

But since we both slowed down the tape breakdowns post-bye, it's not like Campbell has all-of-a-sudden developed issues that weren't there in the first half of the year. His pocket presence is still very spotty, and though he has greatly improved his ball control when he gets drilled, he's still not very sure of himself after a play breaks down. His accuracy has been suspect all year. These are measurable things that we can observe, and I don't think there's any reason to make things up.

Anyway, here's Jaws on Campbell from two weeks ago. I don't think he says anything that we don't already know, but I agree with his bottom line conclusion.

washingtonpost.com

Campbell has struggled since then, but his fundamentals tend to break down when his team is greatly over-matched. There's a very simple solution to this problem that has nothing to do with Jason Campbell, and I hope we throw ALL of our resources at the real problem, independent of what the Redskins choose to do with their quarterback.

My biggest point: Campbell is neither the problem, nor the solution to the problem. I think I remember reading that in your Chiefs review as well, so if I stole it from you, I apologize.
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