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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
My user name has nothing to do with this issue.
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It has about as much to do with it as Jason Campbell's passing performance, but like I said -- totally off topic. I just found it interesting since I consider myself a Monk fan as well, and Portis' attitudes in several areas rub me the wrong way.
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
I'm a football fan chief, I can also take the Redskins shades off to judge a player for them and not what a newspaper or talk show host wants me to think.
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That's good; that tells me you'd be able to objectively put your appreciation for Portis' past performance on the field aside and consider the realities of what he may or may not do next year.
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
I didn't say a thing about Williams and Jones but I'll meet you there also. Delhomme is one of the FEW QB's that I wouldn't drop Campbell for and Favre had a bad year BUUUUUUT he did throw 22 TD's as well. Campbells performance is relevant when the O-Line is one of the reasons given for his production or lack there of, he's another subject for me. On to the subject at hand.
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Okay, you proved me wrong by saying that Favre and Delhomme had bad years? Makes no sense. My point was you used another irrelevant measure to compare Portis and Campbell, which makes no sense at all. And the only reason you even brought Jason up was to trash him because "all you guys who love Jason will be sorry when Portis leaves" or whatever.
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
Now, it took Portis 342 attempts to gain those yards, So the F what. He got them didn't he. Obviously there were a lot of men in the box, or maybe the same line that you would complain about Jason having to play behind gave him the same grief. I guess that doesn't count.
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So the F what? It's called yards per carry. If you gave Fred Smoot enough carries he could gain a lot of yards rushing, too. 1500 yards is 1500 yards, and you can't sneeze at that, but what does it mean when the team still failed to do anything AND Portis was so abused that he spent half the following season injured?
The *fact* (yes, I use them) remains that when Portis has had 1500 yard seasons or very close to them, the next year he has missed 8 games. TWICE. That ain't coincidence, dude, that's mechanical failure.
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
I can't believe that you can really discount the fact that he put the team on his back for 2 playoff runs. Honestly, but you say because they lost that it was HIS fault ? WOW
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No, I didn't discount them and I didn't say the losses were solely on Clinton. But the fact remains that the dude requires so many touches to generate yardage that by the time the playoffs roll around he is spent, and that IS a major reason we failed to advance -- lack of a solid run game! You cannot dispute this! If you say he's such a huge reason for the team's success, how can he NOT bear blame when he breaks down during those playoff games?
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
I really wish you had looked up stats before you thought about choosing me as the guy to make a name on.
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The hilarious part is that you reposted the same information I did, and seem to think I missed Portis' 1500 yard seasons, when I explicitly called it out in my response.
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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life
Do you notice something ? Like I said, He knows what he had in Portis, and that guy is not done.
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Yes, I noticed that Shanahan got the best shutdown corner in the league and then replaced Portis' 1500 yards with 1000 yards from a bunch of nobodies. Did he miss those 500 yards? I'm sure, but I think he was happy with the team's relative improvement even if he didn't have the #1 ranked rushing offense.