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Originally Posted by Daseal
I'd take him in the 4th too. Say what you want about his heart, which none of you have even gotten a glimpse of, I'm sure.
I know one thing. His legs lead his team to a national championship where they trounced Miami. The same Miami that had our very own Sean Taylor and all those 1st round picks!
He has football speed, but doesn't run a quick 40. He put on a TON of muscle mass this offseason. He made himself bigger and more powerful. So it's silly to say he had a physical drop off. He was working out and adding bulk!
These character issues are overblown. Everyone's just mad because he showed how useless college is for great atheletes. Instead of letting him farm his name around for cash, he wanted to play in the big league. He proved everything he had to prove to people as a freshman. He obviously wasn't interested in a college degree, and when you play D1 sports -- that school OWNS you.
We couldn't get a better player in the 4th round. I don't think he has character issues. All this guy wants is to play football. He's getting his wish, I think he'll be good.
PSUFan - let's not call him a highschool standout when he leads his team to the championship as a freshman in college. While the (almost identical) team fights just to get a bowl big the next year. He's two times what Larry Johnson is. Hell, Vermeil called Larry Johnson a crybaby. Never heard a coach call Clarett that.
No work ethic eh? Guess that's why he put on so much muscle during the offseason.
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Here you go again. You just have to make it personal, don't you? Well you called me out, so here goes.
First, of all, didn't that championship game go to multiple overtimes? Explain to me how Ohio State "trounced" Miami in a game that went to overtime. And most people that actually know anything about college football will tell you that the Buckeyes rode their defense to that championship, not the legs of Maurice Clarett. It was 17-17 at the end of regulation and the wonderful Clarett ended the game, plus two overtimes with a whopping 47 yards on 23 carries. WOW, just a shade over 2 yards per carry. Boy, you really got me there Daseal.
Second of all, I know that your comment about Clarett being "two times what Larry Johnson is" was only meant to get under my skin, because you couldn't actually be serious, so I hesitate to dignify such a comment by getting into a long tirade over why such a statement is so ludicrous, but I'll try to let the facts speak for themselves.
2002 Season:
Clarett: 222 attempts, 1237 yards, 5.6 Yd/att, 16 tds (and he missed three full games and two partial games because he's brittle.....I mean he was injured)
Johnson: 271 attempts, 2087 yards, 7.7 Yd/att, 20 tds (and he missed zero games for injury)
In what category is Clarett better? Next time, please have some support for your argument.
In addition, when Clarett gets drafted in the first round like LJ, then maybe I'll give your argument some credit. Right now Clarett will be LUCKY to sniff the 4th or 5th round. But I suppose that's just because every single NFL coach and GM are just not as smart as Daseal because they don't realize that he's "two times" what LJ is as a back. I guess Daseal is right, and every other professional scout in the NFL is wrong. I guess Mel Kiper, whose life it is to project college players into the NFL, doesn't know what he's talking about when he says there is no way Clarett goes before the 5th or 6th rounds. That's right, everyone else in the world of football is wrong, but Daseal is right.
As for work ethic: Explain to me why Clarett, who's had nothing better to do with his time but work out over the past two years, quit the combine after posting a 40 time that puts him in competition with fullbacks and athletic tight ends? Football speed? Where do you see that? I've not heard a single NFL scout say that. Oh, he rebounded nicely at this last individual workout? Great for him. I hope he really impressed those 5 or 6 teams that even cared enough to send somebody to witness it.
As for the "crybaby" comment. Vermeil apologized to LJ for making that comment and said it was taken out of context. By the end of the year, he was singing his praises. And if you want to know what kind of player/guy Clarett is, why don't you just ask coach Neuheisel? Clarett would be lucky to only be called a "crybaby" by Neuheisal. But I guess that particular former coach's comments, and the fact that he SUSPENDED HIM FROM THE TEAM FOR A FULL YEAR really mean that he loves Clarett. Come on, seriously, this is perhaps the weakest argument you've ever tried making (and that's really saying something coming from me)
Clarett is a joke. Plain and simple.