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Old 03-08-2011, 09:08 AM   #325
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

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Originally Posted by BuckSkin View Post
I'd take a second and fourth for Cooley and throw AH in for free. On the AC thread a few members are asking... why didn't we trade Portis ,Moss, or AC while they still had value. Cooley is an upper echelon TE, but for how much longer.

Not going to happen. At best you may get a 3rd rounder for CC at this particular time. The guy has had a injury and he fumbles entirely too much.


Chris Cooley - 7 seasons......11 fumbles
Antonio Gates - 8 seasons ......3 fumbles
Tony Gonzalez - 14 seasons......6 fumbles
Dallas Clark - 8 seasons............5 fumbles
Jason Witten - 8 seasons..........4 fumbles
Vernon Davis - 5 seasons.........4 fumbles


His fumbles dwarf those who are at the same position and have played longer. (some) Before some idiot comes back and says "those aren't fumbles lost", then realize that the act of recovering a fumble is pure luck. You don't judge a player on whether the fumble was lost or not, you judge him on the fumbles itself.


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Stripping the ball is a skill. Holding onto the ball is a skill. Pouncing on the ball as it is bouncing all over the place is not a skill. There is no correlation whatsoever between the percentage of fumbles recovered by a team in one year and the percentage they recover in the next year. The odds of recovery are based solely on the type of play involved, not the teams or any of their players.
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