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NLC1054 · 06-01-2011, 05:30 PM

I don't think it's really greed on the players side. It's not like the player's are asking for money.

The owners are asking to take more of the players money off the top. I think the player's stance (which hasn't been effectively communicated, because DeMaurice Smith is a tool) is that they don't have a problem with giving the owners more money, IF there is a financial incentive and if the owners need it.

Thus far, the owners haven't provided any evidence that they are in such dire straits that they need more money. The owners know they don't have a leg to stand on in this fight. That's what the whole "they won't open their books" madness was about; the owners wouldn't open their books because they know if they did, their case for renegotiating the CBA. And despite it all, more and more reports have come out that state that the NFL and it's teams are making more money than ever and are still raising prices everywhere.

I think the player's are right to question the owner's motives. I just think they picked crappy representation. DeMaurice Smith is a lawyer. His answer to everything is going to be to litigate. He hasn't been effective in communicating that the players are in the right, and he hasn't been willing to come back to the table.

At least the owners are saying they want to be at the negotiating table. De Smith? He's taking shots over the bow in speeches in front of college students, and making sarcastic statements all the time. His methods are horrible and not in the best interest of the players he represents.

The whole reason that DeMaurice Smith was elected to be head of the NFLPA was because he was a lawyer and because the players knew it would come down to a lockout situation. Now, I think they're probably realizing that the lawyer is just going to do what lawyers do.

Jason Snelling asked why they're not sitting at the table, and I think a big part of that is because of De Smith. I think he's misled the players in this whole mess. The players have the better position and Smith has been balls at effectively communicating that.

06-01-2011, 05:30 PM	#246
NLC1054 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 279	Re: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Continues I don't think it's really greed on the players side. It's not like the player's are asking for money. The owners are asking to take more of the players money off the top. I think the player's stance (which hasn't been effectively communicated, because DeMaurice Smith is a tool) is that they don't have a problem with giving the owners more money, IF there is a financial incentive and if the owners need it. Thus far, the owners haven't provided any evidence that they are in such dire straits that they need more money. The owners know they don't have a leg to stand on in this fight. That's what the whole "they won't open their books" madness was about; the owners wouldn't open their books because they know if they did, their case for renegotiating the CBA. And despite it all, more and more reports have come out that state that the NFL and it's teams are making more money than ever and are still raising prices everywhere. I think the player's are right to question the owner's motives. I just think they picked crappy representation. DeMaurice Smith is a lawyer. His answer to everything is going to be to litigate. He hasn't been effective in communicating that the players are in the right, and he hasn't been willing to come back to the table. At least the owners are saying they want to be at the negotiating table. De Smith? He's taking shots over the bow in speeches in front of college students, and making sarcastic statements all the time. His methods are horrible and not in the best interest of the players he represents. The whole reason that DeMaurice Smith was elected to be head of the NFLPA was because he was a lawyer and because the players knew it would come down to a lockout situation. Now, I think they're probably realizing that the lawyer is just going to do what lawyers do. Jason Snelling asked why they're not sitting at the table, and I think a big part of that is because of De Smith. I think he's misled the players in this whole mess. The players have the better position and Smith has been balls at effectively communicating that.