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Originally Posted by GTripp0012
I think the fundamental difference between what you believe re: Moss and what I do has to do with the idea that Moss is still highly productive.
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Moss is a top 10 WR, I'm not sure how you define highly productive but I would argue that Moss is far closer to highly productive then replacement level.
There's alot you said that I disagree with but in short I don't think "effective against No.2 CBs" is an accurate description of Moss. Nor do agree that he is unplayable against top comp.
He simply cannot produce at the level he did if those statements were true, especially when he only had 1 other decent complementary WR in AA.
He was No.4 in yards, No.10 in receptions.
Here are some WRs with similar yds/target:
Roddy White 179 targets/1389 yards=7.76
Moss 146/1115=7.64
Reggie Wayne 173/1355=7.83
Colston 133/1023=7.70
*Larry Fitz=6.54 (but he had a horrible group of QB limit his production)
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Still, I think your argument that an aging Moss can be part of a dominant WR corps is not so much something I disagree with as much as its pointing out that since Moss isn't capable of being a major player in that dominance,
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In your opinion Moss isn't capable of being a major player in a dynamic WR corps.
But, his production suggests otherwise.
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can you give a good reason that having Moss coming out of the slot producing like a third receiver is better than having 24 year old Malcolm Kelly causing the same match-up problems for smaller DBs?
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Moss didn't/doesn't produce like a 3rd WR, Moss had top 10 production.
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but I don't think the "next guy up" philosophy is going to have too much of an issue replacing Moss if and when it needs to.
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This is where we disagree, and this is where I believe you discount not only Moss's talent/production but discount the difference in talent between top NFL WRs and the rest of NFL WRs.
You seem to believe its simply a matter of next man up.
But, that's not the case.
Every WR that becomes the main cog in their team's passing game doesn't have top 10 production.
Paraphrasing Mike Irvin: "You cannot anoit someone a number 1 WR, you become a No.1 WR"
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I'm just not looking at Hankerson as a no. 3 receiver with no one else ever seeing the field except in case of injury. I want more radical turnover within the receiving corps than just letting unproductive third targets walk.
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A more radical turnover doesn't equal more production from the WRs.
Again, I think its far more likely to have a dynamic WR corps with Moss then without Moss.
And having Moss around creates favorable match-up for Hankerson et al this year and allows them to progress into being the focal point of the passing game rather then being thrust into that role.
Those are the 2 main reason why it makes sense for Moss to come back.
Granted I'm assuming that Mike Shanahan actually has a plan for the QB position like he said he does, and I'm also assuming that QB will be viable.
If there isn't a viable QB under center then re-signing Moss is kinda superfluous.