[SolidSnake84]

Let's say the redskins go 4 and 12, or even worse 3 and 13....it is completley possible in Washington....would that record still not be bad enough to get Andrew Luck?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing for that at all, but just curious on just how bad a team needs to be in order to get the 1st round, 1st overall pick.