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Old 05-26-2005, 09:08 AM   #68
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Re: Hall In, Taylor Out??

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Originally Posted by Paintrain
I'd be suprised if he didn't make the hall.. Super Bowls with 2 teams in 2 completely different eras, winning one.. A winner for most of his coaching career (Lost is about to come on so I am not going to take the time to research) not to mention his broadcasting prowess. If he somehow gets to the Super Bowl with the Chiefs (which I completely doubt by the way) he's a lead pipe lock.. Don't forget he's a media darling and they are the ones who vote..

Getting into a coaches doghouse in May and doing something midseason to get benched are completely different entities.. Once the season starts you are on their time, in May, you are on your own time.
First, you make a good point about May v. Mid-season.

Vermeil: Even I was a little surprised to find that his career win/loss record is only 110 wins / 103 losses (52% winning percentage) with a post-season record of 6-5. I know he's a media sweetheart, but there's no way that record gets you into the hall.

There are currently only 20 coaches in the HOF right now. I'll list the only ones to have coached arguably in the modern area (since 1980):
(all regular season records)
Joe Gibbs: 130-70
Bud Grant: 158-96-5
Tom Landry: 250-162-6
Marv Levy: 143-112
Chuck Noll: 193-148-1
Don Shula: 328-156-6
Bill Walsh: 92-59-1

Aside from their records, you can tie each of the above names to specific teams that were dominant for at least a decade. I don't even know what team Vermeil would be inducted under? Eagles? because he was there the longest? Rams? because he won with them? Cheifs? Ok, obviously not, but the point is there is no way you can put Dick Vermeil's name up there with that list. Just no way IMO.

Add to that all the coaches that are in line ahead of Vermeil (record and/or accomplishment wise):
Bill Cowher
Mike Ditka
Mike Holmgren
John Madden
Bill Parcells
Dan Reeves
Marty Shottenheimer
Mike Shanahan
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