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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon
Check the chronology on Plummer's retirement and statements subsequent to that.
How am I wrong about Elway? He was in the NFL from 84 until Shanahan showed up in Denver in 96. That is "more than a decade". Elway took an over-achieving bunch of guys to a Super Bowl without Shanahan's guidance in the 80s.
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I've talked to Plummer directly (about handball mainly) and I know of his dislike for Shanahan, but I also know it wasn't Shanahan that led him to retire. It was that when Shanahan let him go he sent him to a place (Tampa) where he'd have to compete for a spot. And that's not what he was interested in.
As for Elway, who do you think was his offense coordinator in the mid 1980s?