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Old 11-22-2011, 02:07 PM   #11
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Re: Some optimism on the 'Shanaplan'

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Originally Posted by The Goat View Post
I (genuinely) admire the optimism you have for this franchise in its current state! Optimism is a great attitude for life in general...I have it...but I can't for the franchise.

Every major decision Mike, or Mike and/or BA, or Mike and/or BA and/or Kyle, made has set this team further and further back. Why was switching to the 3-4 defense necessary for the future? Is your argument saying only 3-4 defenses are elite? I don't buy that. Regardless, the opportunity cost of blowing up the defense has proven enormous. This fact is corroberated every time someone on the board acknowledges our offense is terrible and terribly deficient of talent i.e. we spend the last two off-seasons spending more than half our picks/FAs on defense.

...and the bottom line is our defense still isn't as good as it was before the switch. I think there's a stong argument to be made we'd still be a better 4-3 defense, especially based on our front 7, because we still don't have the NT required to make the 3-4 dominant. Soooooo we can say Mike and/or whoever decided to force the system w/o the most important piece in place. We can also say it will still require at least a few more major investments in the defense to "finish" it so to speak. NT. FS. CB (maybe two). Prior to the switch we really just needed a FS and maybe another CB. So again I say we're still better suited in the 4-3 because it eliminates the need for a dominant NT, which will require a high draft pick (think BJ Raji or Suh) or a bigtime FA signing.

Next we can talk about Mike's decisions on QBs. I don't have the energy to keep going over it though lol. Bottom line he's utterly wasted two critical years through 4 terrible moves (Jason, McNabb, Rex, Beck). We don't have a QB of the future or a vet QB to help mentor the guy of the future (please don't mention Rex here). Meanwhile several of the QBs he passed on, both solid vets and draft picks, are doing far better than either goofball on our roster.

Finally, Mike and this coaching staff has lost the team. Last Sunday against a division rival was the only real show of emotion we've seen from more than a couple/few players in months. Shit, the winless Colts play with more passion, as do the Dolphins and Browns.

Add all that to the week to week stupidity in play-calling, roster decisions (like running Torain instead of Helu) and game and clock management. This just isn't a serious franchise. I don't think it's the players. It's the leadership.
Dear The Goat,

I think it is very narrow minded of you to say EVERYTHING Shanny has done has made the team worse. That is quite false.

1. Teams switch from 3-4 to 4-3 defenses all the time. It's just a philosophical preference. New coaching staffs that come in want to mold the team to the belief system they have. You mean to tell me the aging 4-3 defense we had two years ago was going to be the long term future of this team anyway? We were one of the oldest teams in the league. We were going to have to get a bunch of new pieces anyway, so your argument is not valid on this point.

2. Of course our defense is not as good, it takes time to put the players in place that you need. I'm sure Phillip Daniels, Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, Renaldo Wynn, Jeremy Jarmon, HB Blades, Fred Smoot, Chris Horton and the rest would be LIGHT YEARS ahead of the unit we have today..... FALSE.

3. Part A. The Jason Campbell trade was not a bad move IMO. Jason had plenty of opportunity in several offenses in Washington and showed he could not get us to the next level. We traded him away FOR a pick, not giving up picks like we always used to. If a guy is not working in your system, do you just keep him for the sake of it? No. When we traded him we had no way of knowing exactly who we would or would not be able to get via FA. It's a risk, but you know that if you keep him you are not taking your team to the next level. If you go a different direction you at least have a chance.
Part B. This is the only thing I agree with you on. The McNabb trade was a debacle. However, teams take risks on FA players all the time. Some pan out and some done. If it pans out you look like a genius. If it doesn't, you look like... well, a goat. Just like Mike Smith looks like a genius if he converts that 4th and inches. He didn't so people criticize him. Hindsight is 20/20.
Part C & D. I've said it before and I will say it again. Rome wasn't built in a day. This team has faced years of inadequacies, deficiencies, and neglect in the hands of Cerrato. You can't fix everything at once. Shanny did not like any of the draft picks available and the FA's available either. It is asinine to say "Meanwhile several of the QBs he passed on, both solid vets and draft picks, are doing far better than either goofball on our roster." A good fit for another team does not mean it is a good fit for our system. You are comparing apples and oranges. There is no comparison here. A most resounding FALSE. Yes Grossman and Beck are inept to say the least, they will not lead us to the playoffs, but in reality we weren't going to the playoffs anyway. We will get a 1st round talent at QB in this year's draft and you will have nothing more to complain about at that position. Well, maybe... I'm sure you'll think of something.

4. I don't mean to come off as sounding rude, but I find it interesting that you would know the mood of the locker room unless you were in it. It's a long season, we've had a lot of injuries, and when you lose 6 straight games I'm guessing it takes a toll on you. However, I don't think that means Shanny and Co. have lost the team. I just means we are down a lot of starters, we are struggling in all phases of the game, and time's aren't good. If he had lost the locker room, Haynesworth 2.0, 3.0, etc would be exploding from the locker room via the media. I don't see that discontent anywhere. Do you?

Respectfully submitted,
SkinzWin
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