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GTripp0012 · 11-25-2011, 03:19 AM

Senior QB Rankings (Pre-Bowl):

1) Nick Foles - Top 10
2) Kellen Moore - 1st round
3) Kirk Cousins - 1st-2nd
4) Ryan Tannehill - 1st-2nd
5) Dominique Davis - 2nd-3rd
6) Jacory Harris - 3rd-4th
7) GJ Kinne - 3rd-4th
8) Dan Persa - 5th-6th
9) Ryan Lindley - 5th-6th
10) Chandler Harnish - 5th-6th
11) John Brantley - 7th-Undrafted
12) B.J. Coleman - 7th-Undrafted

Foles is really good, and I'm really not sure why more people don't expect more out of him. He's not in Andrew Luck's class, and by extension he's not Barkley or Griffin, but he's at least on par with Joe Flacco coming out of college. I think he's got more ability than Flacco did. Top 10 might be a stretch, I think underclassmen will push him down.

Kellen Moore is a sensational player who should get a stock boost from the recent success of guys like Andy Dalton and Colt McCoy. Unlike McCoy and Dalton, he's totally and utterly immobile, like Foles, but the thing that makes me think Moore will overcome his height while Kinne, Persa, and Russell Wilson won't be able to overcome theirs is that Kellen Moore makes it look easy. If there's a criticism of Foles, is that he makes passing look tough, even when he's well in control of the situation. Moore is the opposite: throw whatever you want at him. He'll beat it.

Cousins impressed me this season specifically because he learned how to attack defensive gameplans. Cousins can break down a defense over the course of a game, which I think is an underrated skill for an NFL quarterback. He's an extreme timing and rhythm "within the system" passer though, which makes sense for a Kyle Shanahan quarterback. Throws a better ball than Rex Grossman.

Tannehill is exactly what you want in a prospect physically, as was Blaine Gabbert before him. He uses the pre-snap read reasonably well, but I don't like how he uses the pocket and I don't like his ball placement ability for run after catch purposes (where Foles I think does the best job of that, along with Moore and Cousins). I don't have any concerns about his arm strength at the next level, where Moore and Cousins will be limited at times. Tannehill, like Cousins, can tuck and run to move the chains. I don't think he throws a better ball than Rex Grossman -- with the exception of the deep out -- but he does "see the throw" considerably better than Grossman, particularly outside the hashes. He seems to be a reasonable decision maker, but the throws he actually takes are typically wide open, and if they aren't, he doesn't use the progression well. He reminds me of Matthew Stafford in a lot of ways. And with Stafford, you just have to take away his top target and then let his lack of accuracy decide the game. I'd do the same thing if defending Tannehill.

11-25-2011, 03:19 AM	#42
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) Senior QB Rankings (Pre-Bowl): 1) Nick Foles - Top 10 2) Kellen Moore - 1st round 3) Kirk Cousins - 1st-2nd 4) Ryan Tannehill - 1st-2nd 5) Dominique Davis - 2nd-3rd 6) Jacory Harris - 3rd-4th 7) GJ Kinne - 3rd-4th 8) Dan Persa - 5th-6th 9) Ryan Lindley - 5th-6th 10) Chandler Harnish - 5th-6th 11) John Brantley - 7th-Undrafted 12) B.J. Coleman - 7th-Undrafted Foles is really good, and I'm really not sure why more people don't expect more out of him. He's not in Andrew Luck's class, and by extension he's not Barkley or Griffin, but he's at least on par with Joe Flacco coming out of college. I think he's got more ability than Flacco did. Top 10 might be a stretch, I think underclassmen will push him down. Kellen Moore is a sensational player who should get a stock boost from the recent success of guys like Andy Dalton and Colt McCoy. Unlike McCoy and Dalton, he's totally and utterly immobile, like Foles, but the thing that makes me think Moore will overcome his height while Kinne, Persa, and Russell Wilson won't be able to overcome theirs is that Kellen Moore makes it look easy. If there's a criticism of Foles, is that he makes passing look tough, even when he's well in control of the situation. Moore is the opposite: throw whatever you want at him. He'll beat it. Cousins impressed me this season specifically because he learned how to attack defensive gameplans. Cousins can break down a defense over the course of a game, which I think is an underrated skill for an NFL quarterback. He's an extreme timing and rhythm "within the system" passer though, which makes sense for a Kyle Shanahan quarterback. Throws a better ball than Rex Grossman. Tannehill is exactly what you want in a prospect physically, as was Blaine Gabbert before him. He uses the pre-snap read reasonably well, but I don't like how he uses the pocket and I don't like his ball placement ability for run after catch purposes (where Foles I think does the best job of that, along with Moore and Cousins). I don't have any concerns about his arm strength at the next level, where Moore and Cousins will be limited at times. Tannehill, like Cousins, can tuck and run to move the chains. I don't think he throws a better ball than Rex Grossman -- with the exception of the deep out -- but he does "see the throw" considerably better than Grossman, particularly outside the hashes. He seems to be a reasonable decision maker, but the throws he actually takes are typically wide open, and if they aren't, he doesn't use the progression well. He reminds me of Matthew Stafford in a lot of ways. And with Stafford, you just have to take away his top target and then let his lack of accuracy decide the game. I'd do the same thing if defending Tannehill. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.