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Old 01-09-2012, 03:12 PM   #89
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Re: Roster transition in the Shanny era

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister View Post
I totally disagee - the only years that Vinny had sole responsibility for the draft was 2008 and 2009. He used plenty of picks in '08, but had numerous busts, including Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly. Our cavalier attitude toward draft picks hit its high water mark during Gibbs 2.0, when Joe Gibbs had final say on all football/personnel matters. To review, under Gibbs we traded the following picks that I'm aware of:
  • A future 2nd rounder for a 3rd rounder that ended up being Chris Cooley (good trade)
  • A 2nd rounder tossed in as part of the Champ Bailey for Clinton Portis trade (Denver should have given us the extra pick!)
  • A 3rd rounder for Mark Brunell, when he was days from being released by the Jaguars
  • A future 1st and a 3rd to move into #25 slot to select Jason Campbell
  • Two 2nd rounders and a 6th to move into position to draft Rocky McIntosh early in the 2nd round
  • A 3rd and a 4th for Brandon Lloyd (compounding that, Gibbs ripped up the last year of his contract and gave Lloyd an extension before he ever played a down here)
  • A 3rd and a 4th for T.J. Duckett (for a 3rd string back!!!!)
  • A 5th for Pete Kendall (good trade)
That is A LOT of traded picks. I'm probably missing others, but you get my drift - Gibbs deserves a huge amount of blame for tossing away draft picks, and we are still paying for that to this day.
I was trashed here when I said it at the time and still stand behind it, the Joe Gibbs 2.0 years set this franchise back 5-10 years. Vinny was a part of it but he did the franchise no favors long term with his decisions.
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