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Originally Posted by Hog1
Just out of curiosity, can anyone post any numbers as to other teams that have made extreme "reaches" (in terms of picks/players traded) for Cannot Miss players...and that players subsequent success?
Because, I do not know what the answer is off hand.....
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Falcons to an extent with Vick and the Giants with Manning. The only time it didn't really work is when the Jets traded for Sanchez and even then they got two pretty good playoff runs out of the guy. More times then not though teams don't pull the trigger on these trade ups, either because a team ahead of them is set on taking the guy they want or the pick is available for trade but the price is to high (either in terms of pick or contract size).
As a reminder the trades are as follows.
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Chargers get: Philip Rivers (1, 4) and Nate Kaeding (3, 65) in ’04; Shawne Merriman (1, 12) and Jerome Collins (5, 144) in ’05; Draft chart points: 3,895.2
Giants get: Eli Manning (1, 1); Draft chart points: 3,000
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Cost: Two 1st, One 3rd, and a 5th round pick
Net Cost: One 1st, One 3rd, One 5th
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Falcons get: Michael Vick (1, 1); Draft chart points: 3,000
Chargers get: WR-RS Tim Dwight (veteran), LaDainian Tomlinson (1, 5) and Tay Cody (3, 67) in ’01 and Reche Caldwell (2, 48) in ’02; Draft chart points: 2,380
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Cost: 1st Round Pick, Next years 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick two years from draft day, Player
Net Cost: 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick, Player
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To acquire Sanchez, the Jets traded their first- and second-round choices (17 and 52), plus three marginal players - defensive end Kenyon Coleman, quarterback Brett Ratliff and safety Abram Elam. (This means Mangini has eight former Jets on his roster.) Only
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Cost: 1st and 2nd Round Pick and three players.
Net Cost: 2nd Round Pick, Three Players
Then again the Falcons may have screwed up the curve
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The Falcons really coveted a receiver in the first round because they were eager to move up from the 27th spot. It was a blockbuster deal. In exchange for getting the sixth pick, Atlanta gave the Browns five -- five! -- draft picks: their 1st- (27th overall), second- (59th) and fourth-round (124th) picks this year and their first- and fourth-round picks in 2012.
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Cost: Two 1st, One 2nd, Two 4ths
Net Cost: 1st, 2nd, two 4ths.