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Originally Posted by Defensewins
What class do you think Ramsey is in??????
People talk great about his potential, but lets not get carried away. The guy is not yet Bret Farve.
Bress had one sub-par (Ramsey like) year, in 2003. In 2001 (rookie year) he did not play. BUt in his other two years 2002 and 2004 he had better numbers than Ramsey has ever in any NFL season. Check for yourself. Brees' QB rating in 2002 was 76.9, better than Ramsey's QB rating in ANY year. Brees had an amazing 40 passes over 20+ yards in 2002. The only diffrence between Brees' 2002 and 2004 (pro Bowl year) was that his interceptions went way down.
I am not sure what source you were using when you said, "Bree's wasen't even considered to be in the same class as Ramsey NOT EVEN CLOSE!" The Press? Those guys are all pencil necked geeks and never played football in their life.
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Probably the pencil necked geek's in San Diego who after drafting Bree's #1 a couple of year's earlier went and drafted River's to take his place, only a holdout kept Rivers from starting and stopped the talk of Bree's being cut.
The only difference in Bree's is his INT's went way down??????? WHY DO THINK THAT IS????????
You don't believe Ramsey's INT's will go down as he get's some protection and familiarity with this offense????
Bree's didn't play much his first year? WHY? Ramsey played his first year and very well for a rookie, you may notice as you continue to read up on your stat's that Ramsey didn't play in many game's his first couple of year's do to the fact that he was a rookie, as well as he had an injury which he played through even though he couldn't throw off his back foot, while being pummled time and again by SS's blocking schemes, then he has to come into games last season to try and bail out Brunnell and learn a new offense on the run considering Brunnel recieved most of the rep's and preperation of the new offense.
I will say this about Campbell, Brunell a seasoned veteran, and Ramsey a near genious had all they could do to try an comprehend Gibbs offense, and I am to believe this kid out of college who is green at best is going to master it, especially after his wonderlik score of 9 the first time he took it? That he will be starting next year? Perhap's? That is, if Ramsey's arm's and leg's fall off.
My source on Bree's is this Miami was offering us 2 #1's for Ramsey when talk was circulating that Bree's may be released, you don't think the Charger's knowing they were going with a new QB wouldn't have taken anything for Bree's if they could have gotten it? No one was offering the charger's anything for Bree's because they all new Bree's was on his way out the door before River's held out, Bree's has also had the opportunity of stability with Marty, yet we can't give the same oppotunity to Ramsey? I am not even concerned that Ramsey is the good's I know he is, my biggest concern is that Gibbs football mind catches up with the new era in the NFL.