[dmek25]

since the beginning of time people have argued. most without fact or merit. very rarely does any logic play a part of these arguments. most are fact less, and logic free. that doesn't mean they don't believe in what they preach. i like the fact you back up what you say with fact. but for every " fact" you come up with, somewhere there will be a counter point. its all in what you believe. but i can guarantee you one thing, no one on this board will change their minds because of a point- counter point argument