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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

However we have to remember that 80% of the time throughout his career Luck was going to the line of scrimmage with 3 plays and regularly calling audibles and protections. Griffin did some of that, but not even close to the extent that Luck did and certainly not in a pro style system.

Where do you get that 80% number from? If were gonna have a discussion that throws out figures we should have some source.
Because as closely as I follow college football I've never heard/read that number.
I have read that this year coach Shaw allowed Luck more freedom at the LOS then ever before.
But, that freedom isn't unique to Luck many pro-styles QBs like Russell Wilson and Ryan Tannehill have a LOS audible system.

To be able to do that in college is HUGE among NFL scouts, but its something few fans seem to know

I think you overstate this point in the eyes of scouts.
Sure its very impressive that Luck given and able to handle that level of control at the LOS.
But, its also important to remember that those audibles were part of a system that was taught to him.
Its not an innate part of his skillset.
Like I was saying in the previous post a common scouting mantra is: you draft for tangibles.
Luck's main advantage is an intangible skills he learned because of the system Harbaugh installed at Stanford.
One could make the argument that Harbaugh superior (NFL caliber) coaching created a situation that gave Luck equal or better coaching then he'll receive in the NFL whereas all the other prospects are going to be exposed to the best coaching of their lives.
One could also argue this situation causes Luck to be closer to his potential and therefore has a lower ceiling then other top prospects.
On the whole being more 'pro-ready' is a relatively short lived advantage it may last a few years or it might not last through training camp.

By the way I never said there was a huge difference in talent between Luck and RG3, in fact I've gone out of my way not to make any of those sort of declarations.

Then my mistake, but that is surely the implication that comes across in your posts when you attempt to shout down people who suggest that Griffin could go no.1.
If Luck and Griffin aren't far apart that why can't Griffin go no.1?

Now he'll have probably 10 years to prove he should have been the top pick in the 2012 draft but as of April 2012 with all the games played and all the interviews conducted, it's just not going to happen.

How can believe they are close as prospects and at the same time claim its impossible that Griffin is being considered for the 1st pick?