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Originally Posted by Daseal
The difference that you seem to be missing, is marriage isn't forcing a single thing on the churches. It is creating more freedom for the individuals to make decisions, while others are trying to constrict freedom. The amount of time and money taken up by gay marriage is beyond crazy to me. Let them get married so that they can be viewed legally as one for things like healthcare, next-of-kin, etc type decisions. It doesn't affect anyone in a negative manner if we do this. If this went live today, no one here (unless you're a gay person that gets married) has their life changed.
Most gay couples, and many non-gay couples, couldn't give half a shit if the 'church recognizes' their marriage. It's about the legal ramifications around not being married that matters; if this happens, non-gay couples need to have their title to the government changed as well. It is about fairness and consistency.
The church doesn't have to recognize marriage. Call it something else if you like -- as long as it fills the legal roles of a typical marriage. Your argument should have 0 credibility or influence on this decision because the church, and their values, should not be weighed or factored in when it comes to making governmental decisions. No Christians are being forced to do anything, they're just trying to force others from having something.
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I never said anything about the church being forced to recognize gay marriage. I said instead of the government deciding what the definition of marriage should be, get the government out of marriage completely and leave it up to the religious institutions to decide. That's pretty much where the sense of marriage came from in the first place. The gay community could have their own ceremony, and the straight, religious (and non-religious as well) could have whatever ceremony they wanted to have. This has gone on long enough anyway. You can't force either side to give up their stance, and getting the government involved is a waste of time and taxpayer money.