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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This is your insight, outright lies and distortions of Ryan's plan by; the Center for American Progress, Ezra Klein and the Atlantic (plus an article from 2011), all left-wing hacks. LOL, again par for the course with you. How about I give you some insight so you can get your head out of your ass:

In the Ryan-Wyden (Dem, Oregon) plan:
1. No one over the age of 55 would be affected in any way.
2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.
3. Overall funding for Medicare under the Ryan-Wyden plan is scheduled to grow at the same rate as under President Obama’s proposals.

This plan is the market giving seniors cheaper, higher quality choices they can take if they wish, with the traditional program remaining an option.

Also, keep in mind that it was Obama and the dems who are gutting Medicare to the tune of $ 700B and will institute health care rationing for seniors under Obamacare.

I'm still trying to figure out which of those articles were outright lies.

True - He supports subsidies for big oil. (look at the voting record I posted)

PAUL RYAN: Voted yes on fat federal subsidies to oil companies just before he told voters he was against them | Uppity Wisconsin

True- Mitt Romney will pay very little (if any) taxes under the Ryan budget. (even Mitt Romney said this in the earlier debate with Newt Gingrich.
Would Paul Ryan's budget give Mitt Romney zero taxes? - latimes.com

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Nothing in the Romney/Paul plan takes from the middle class and gives to the "rich",

So essentially they'll be raising taxes on the middle class yet lowering it for the upper elite.

How Paul Ryan's Tax Plan Measures Up For Americans - ABC News

While Mitt Romney would reportedly pay less than one percent of his income in taxes under Paul Ryan's previous tax plan, most Americans making less than $200,000 would see a tax hike under the budget of Ryan proposed before his selection to be Romney's running mate.

Remember now, Romney has been on record supporting Paul Ryan's budget.

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Outright lie #1 from your link on Big Oil: "It ends the guarantee of decent insurance for senior citizens, breaking Medicare’s bedrock promise."

So you have problem with this:

It ends the guarantee of decent insurance for senior citizens, breaking Medicare’s bedrock promise. It slashes investments in education, infrastructure, and basic research, all of which are key drivers of economic growth and mobility. And it cuts taxes for those at the top, asking the middle class to pick up the tab. It’s a budget designed to benefit the top 1 percent at everyone else’s expense.

Now this isn't a outright lie as you claim. Notice it says "decent" before insurance, so definitions of decent are subjective. Romney and crew may think you having to pay 50% of costs is decent, where as a person making 25k per year may think paying 5% costs is decent. (using this as an example so don't go all apeshit here ..kk thnx) Also, I don't think he states that it breaks that Medicare promise for current seniors, just that it does or will and it's factual. You may argue he is presenting hyperbole, but to say he's lying is not correct at all.

But the rest of the article? Yeah, didn't think so.




Guess in the end, those articles ARE correct regardless of your claims of left wing hacks. You presented ONE case for potential hyperbole from one sentence out of a huge article. Really?...lol